So if the 4 is smaller than the rest of the txt, it should be either situated outlined with the bottom of the other text or in the middle. Does that make sense?

new design added let me know if I did it right, Gwen

Looks great already! Could you try with the 4 even smaller? One can be outlined at the bottom, the other one in the middle.

see new updated designs for requested changes, Gwen.

Let us know how those new ones are, gwen

Hey Gwen, we reallly like the red and blue designs. Two points:

1) would it be possible to have the 4 fade into the glasses at the bottom? So that it becomes a bit more streamlined.

2) the flame design: the left big whisker can be a bit thicker, and the three small other ones can be erased. We're thinking of scalability issues related to the logo.

added a new design for point 1 not sure i follow but see new design for updated and let me know if thats' what you meant

Hey, point 2 (flame) is perfect now, thanks! Point 1: the original placement of the 4 (on the edge of the glasses) was perfect. I was more referring to the bottom of the 4 tapering into the side of the glasses, so that the width of the glasses and the bottom of the 4 is the same. If this makes sense?